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Karen now has a blog! 

 

"Online Law School Student Blog"

 

Karen's

Online Law School Adventure

 
 
 
 

From There to Here in a Nutshell

Why I Want to Be a Lawyer

Why Online Law School?

Isn't Law School Really Hard?  Don't You Have to Be Really Smart?

Karen's New Blog - "Online Law School Student Blog" (Will open a new window)

Karen's Original Online Law School Diary (Beginnings of a Blog)


 

From There to Here in a Nutshell

Without going into all of the gory details...

I found myself bankrupt in the fall of the year 2000, without husbands, and with kids grown and gone.  

After swimming around in a "half-empty glass attitude," trying to figure out what to do with my life, I looked into going back to college.  Then I learned that really broke people in the U.S. qualify for the maximum financial aid!  And the glass started looking half-full.

With no more excuses and--quite literally--nothing to lose, I enrolled as a freshman in college at age 44 in January 2001.

After lots of bad counseling advice, and struggling to make ends meet, financial aid nightmares, and employers who one day say they'll work with your class schedule and the next change their mind...I actually found myself walking to the music of "Pomp and Circumstance" in a funny-looking blue outfit with a square hat with a tassel on it, May 30, 2003, a rolled-up fake diploma in my hand, and a smile as big as Texas.  A few weeks later, a real-life Associate in Arts degree with my name on it, arrived in the mail.

I had done it.  I had really done it!  

Wow.

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Why I Want to Be a Lawyer

1) Lawyers make more money than secretaries.

2) Lawyers get lots more respect.

3) A law degree is a great credential for a writer and speaker, which I also plan on pursuing.

4) I don't expect to be able to retire, and  I'd rather spend my "golden years" as a lawyer than a Wal-Mart greeter.

5) I've always actually enjoyed researching the law.

6) I can't wait to help a client kick some shyster's butt--with "knowledge" of the law.  Knowledge truly is a powerful thing.  

My dream is to make more money working less hours.  And I want to work for myself.  If it turns out I don't make more money, and end up working more hours--the respect I will have earned through education will still be worth it.  Even if it's just within my own mind, family and friends.

I also want to have the freedom to spend as much time as possible with my grandchildren, when they arrive.  My plan is to have a small practice, with regular business hours, where my grandkids will be welcome.  I may simply keep a small office in my home.  

I'm not sure which area of the law I will land in.  Right now I'm interested in both elder law and immigration law.

I would also like to write and give motivational speeches to help people struggling with going to college.

Looks like I'm going to have to live a long time...

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Why Distance Law School?

1) It's cheaper.  My tuition is approx. $2,000/year x 4 years = $8,000.  One of the cheapest "big boy" law schools (American Bar Association accredited) for California residents, is UC Davis's law school, at about $17,200/year as of fall 2003.  $17,200 x 3 years = $51,600Plus I save the cost of a full year of undergraduate work (see below).

2) It will save me a year's time.  ABA law schools require a bachelor's degree (4 years) plus 3 years of law school = 7 years.  My unaccredited California law school (which follows California State Bar rules), only requires 60 college units equivalent to the first 2 years of a bachelor's degree (or a non-tech A.A. degree) plus 4 years of distance college (there are also in-class night schools).  Total = 6 years. 

3) I plan on practicing in California.  Going to a non-ABA-approved law school means that I will only be able to definitely practice law in California.  Some states will allow me to practice law there with varying restrictions, and many won't.  But, I plan on staying in California, so this is not a problem for me.  

4) Distance law school doesn't waste my study time.   To become a lawyer in California, regardless of which educational route a law student has taken, each law student must pass the California State Bar Exam to practice law in California.  

Most law schools teach by studying case law, and students spend most of their time learning and memorizing cases.  But, the bar exam does not require knowledge of cases.  To pass the bar exam, students must be able to spot issues (potential legal problems/arguments) in a hypothetical situation, recite the applicable laws/rules, and discuss the possible arguments and outcomes of each side of the "case."  

The distance law school I am attending does not require me to memorize cases, but rather learn the principles of law, rules of the courts, etc.  Studying cases is encouraged, but only as a tool to learn the above.

5) I didn't have to take the dreaded LSAT.  To get into a big boy law school, I would have had to take the Law School Admissions Test.  The questions are timed and are mostly logic-type questions.  These tests have nothing to do with law, but they supposedly test abilities which are desirable in a lawyer.  A good score on this test is imperative to be admitted to big boy law schools.

I am terrible at math and at logic questions.  These logic questions are akin to mathematical word problems from hell.  For instance, questions listing names of people sitting in an airplane, but Bob only has women around him, and Mary only has women in front and back of her, and...so who is George sitting next to?  And you have about 30 seconds for each question.  Ack.

I will have to take the First Year Law Student Exam (FYLSE) at the end of my first year, which only distance/night law school students have to take.  But, it is only about the subjects I will have studied in my first year of law school.  In other words, I can actually study for this test.  

I'm very good at learning a subject and applying principles.  I'm just really terrible at logic problems.  So, I'm not afraid of the FYLSE (also referred to as the Baby Bar because it is formatted much like the actual bar exam).  In fact, I will get the double benefit of having already had a bar-exam-like experience, before I take the actual bar exam after my fourth year.

6) I can attend anywhere, anytime.  I don't have to attend regular class sessions.  I do have access to scheduled chat sessions with my fellow students and our professor.  But, I don't have to attend.  And I have the freedom to move, and to work any shift.   I can even go on vacation on a whim anytime (if I could afford to, ha ha!)  Wherever I go, my law school can go with me.  In today's world, I felt I had a better chance of succeeding with this flexibility.  

7) I don't need a fancy law degree.  I am not planning a law career which would require a prestigious law degree.

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Isn't Law School Really Hard?  Don't You Have to Be Really Smart?

I don't think so.

A big boy law school would be hard for me, because I don't think I would be good at memorizing cases and dates and reciting them off the top of my head.  So, I'd probably look like a complete idiot in the classroom.  But, I don't have to do that at my distance law school.

If I had to attend one of those schools, I'd start from the back and work my way forward.  In other words, how do I pass the class?  Just by passing tests?  If so, I'd find out how the tests were structured and focus on that.  If looking like an idiot in class doesn't affect my passing the class, who cares?  I'd spend all of my energy on learning how to pass that test.

Does this mean I won't be a good lawyer?  It means I won't practice law as a trial lawyer, because I'm not fast on my feet.  But, I'm very thorough in my research, and I'm a tough negotiator and advocate.  I plan on winning cases outside of a courtroom.  If I'm involved in something that turns out to need a great trial lawyer, I'll find one.

I do think that people who like definite answers would really hate law school--and being a lawyer.  If you're the type of person who does badly on multiple-choice problems because you can find a good "case" for each possible answer (like me), you're probably a great candidate for law school!  There are no definite answers.  You may miss an issue in a question, or recite the wrong law, that type of thing.  But there are no definite right or wrong answers, just good arguments.  Your answers need to point out all the reasonable, potential arguments either side may come up with, the actual rules that apply to those arguments, and what the courts are likely to decide.  In the real life of lawyering, going to court is always a 50-50 gamble. 

If you can handle this ambiguity, even enjoy it, and you are clever (not necessarily brilliant), and a dedicated student, I don't see why you couldn't succeed in law school.

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